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Post by cdtluppo on Oct 17, 2019 20:48:53 GMT
Hello, i really like the 1:1 idea and the 2mm range. Iirc there was some pics from Zach for some kind of KS blocks months ago on TMP & on his blog. that being said, i'm a hex & counters wargamer, i do not use (micro) figs, nevertheless it seems this forum is the right place to share some ideas. i plan to have "Kriegsspiel sticks" (dual scale > brigade as sub units and battalions as sub units) to use with a regular hex wargame map. those sticks are intended to show Napoleonic brigade level dispositifs / battle arrays and the same for Bn. i wonder if it is possible to create those sticks in 3D printing ? in essence they are very simple rectangles (0,5 mm x 1,5mm or 0,5x 3 mm or 0,5 x 4,5mm, etc) the twist is to have the formation(s) on the 4 sides. i tried to make some prototypes in wood, but it's quite problematic to get a "clean cut" a few pics to show what i'm talking about ... very similar to the 2mm scale, but it's like a 0,5 mm scale ! each hex is 100 meters. cheers, Eric   
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Post by Zach on Oct 18, 2019 3:59:31 GMT
Hi!
You emailed me about this awhile ago, or maybe contacted me on Facebook about it I think. I closed your message and may have deleted it on accident or something. I was looking for it the other day and couldn't find it.
Anyways, I actually made a bunch of KS blocks for my personal use awhile ago but for some reason never put them in the Library. I'll go ahead and make some at the sizes you mentioned and get them in there now. I think they'll be popular.
That said, I don't quite follow what you mean by having the formations on the four sides. Could you explain that a bit?
Sorry again for losing your previous email!
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Post by Zach on Oct 18, 2019 4:00:49 GMT
BTW, the little schematics look great. Do you mean that you'll glue those onto each side of the block?
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Post by Zach on Oct 18, 2019 6:48:28 GMT
Well, I got caught up in some work and need to get to bed here.
Do you want blocks sized for the labels you already cut? Let me know and I can whip something up tomorrow.
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Post by cdtluppo on Oct 18, 2019 19:51:07 GMT
Good Day Zach,
yes i did try to contact you from you blog - web site but did not get an answer, so i tried here ! i have followed your work for (many) months
so i was aware of this forum .... : )
the initial idea was effectively to glue the "formations" on the wooden sticks but it is rather difficult to cut the wood in a clean way.
so i though about 3D printing as *the solution* ... the question is to know if it is technically possible to have the formations directly in "negative" on the blocks sides ? ie to avoid to have to glue little piece of paper on them ...
for this project i need to have (1) Bn sticks with Bn tactical formations and (2) brigade sticks for grand tactical formations - battle arrays
this refers to two distincts set of rules, one with Bn as sub units and another one with brigades a sub units.
my intent is to have sticks of 0,5 cm x 1,5 cm for Bn etc. > is that possible for a 3D printer ?
i can adapt labels sizes to what is possible .... if the printed in negative is not possible.
in thant case we just need basic rectangular sticks :
0,5 cm x 1,5 cm x 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 3,0 cm x 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 4,5 cm x 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 6,0 cmx 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 2,25 cm x 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 3,75 cm x 0,5 cm
0,5 cm x 5,25 cmx 0,5 cm
also :
1,25 x 1,25 cm x 0,5 cm
1,25 x 3,0 cm x 0,5 cm
cheers Eric
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Post by Zach on Oct 19, 2019 1:46:29 GMT
Done! I added all the ones you listed, plus some 20mm rectangles (they'll be popular) and two kinds of triangles.
And if you know anybody who wants to download some kriegspiel blocks, send them my way!
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Post by Zach on Oct 19, 2019 5:21:24 GMT
I think I might make these available for free, and use them as a loss-leader for the Library.
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Post by cdtluppo on Oct 20, 2019 7:47:22 GMT
Good day Zach, is there a place where a can see a preview or pics of the sticks ?! i saw your thread on TMP for 2mm french division battle array, you can check this PDF, P 10 - 19 for some examples of *dispositions* of a division (layout - battle array) www.planete-napoleon.com/docs/ORGDIV2.pdf you can also check general Renard's book and Cdt Gerome's essai : the plates/diagrams in the PDF comes from those 2 books gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k433052t.texteImagegallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k97855623.texteImagea fascinating subject on the how and why the commander will choose a layout for his grand body of troops (offense or defense purpose- threat considerations - command and direction of troops- etc) |
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Post by Zach on Oct 20, 2019 17:54:13 GMT
Thanks for the links, I'll check them out! You can open the files by clicking on them if you have a Mac. You should be able to do something similar on a PC. I don't have a PC so I'm not sure what program you would use. You can also see them by uploading them at www.treatstock.com or at www.3dhubs.com. Just upload them and they'll pop up in the viewer. You can also get a price estimate of a 3D printer near you. |
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Post by cdtluppo on Oct 24, 2019 19:08:08 GMT
Good day Zach,
a bit busy at work lately ... i could not find the files ... i searched your blog extensively but found nothing .. do you have a direct link ?! or do i have to buy the library first ?
Ps : i think tou researched our friends the austrian (extensively) : do you have a good reference for battalion organization / structure fort the 1809 campaign period ?
i'm looking after the # of compagnies per battalion and the # of men per compagnie ... i though it was 160/200 men per compagnie and 6 x lies per Bn...
so 6 cies x 160 = 960 men in the battalion
also if you have a reference (in english, i can't read german : ) ) for the way the units (Bn) and sub units (dies) were battle arrayed ... austrian methods for line, ligne doublée, various columns, square, skirmishers (methods for line infantry, light infantry) etc ...
thanks in adanvce for any help on those points. I have the 1807 regs, but only the plates are useful
cheers Eric : )
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Post by Zach on Oct 24, 2019 21:11:52 GMT
The kriegspiel sticks are on the Gumroads sight as part of the Library. Just scan to the bottom; they're the last item added.
On the Austrians, I do have a lot of info, but I would have to go back and look at my old notes for it. I spent quite a lot of time trying to figure them out for 1809. I"m at work just now, but I can get back to you later on tonight.
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