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Post by zeitsev on Nov 11, 2019 16:12:53 GMT
Zach - My friend and I are going to be doing a Napoleonic project at the brigade scale.
- We were wondering if you'd consider making some column units, preferably with 0, 1 and 2 flags? Or if battalion/regiment columns exist, could you point me to them?
For the group - - When printing units, is there a preferred color of plastic you use?
We were debating whether to print in brown or green plastic or use the national uniform color.
Green or brown would seem to avoid having to paint the base. National uniform color would help avoid painting the area between the ranks.
- We are also planning on mounting three to four units on brigade bases measuring c. 2 1/2" x 1 1/2" inches.
Has anyone had experience using bases? Do you use flocking and if so, what type? Or have you used paint instead, and if so, what color?
Any additional comments, thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks.
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Post by druid8172 on Nov 11, 2019 18:12:39 GMT
Zach - My friend and I are going to be doing a Napoleonic project at the brigade scale.
- We were wondering if you'd consider making some column units, preferably with 0, 1 and 2 flags? Or if battalion/regiment columns exist, could you point me to them?
For the group - - When printing units, is there a preferred color of plastic you use?
We were debating whether to print in brown or green plastic or use the national uniform color.
Green or brown would seem to avoid having to paint the base. National uniform color would help avoid painting the area between the ranks.
- We are also planning on mounting three to four units on brigade bases measuring c. 2 1/2" x 1 1/2" inches.
Has anyone had experience using bases? Do you use flocking and if so, what type? Or have you used paint instead, and if so, what color?
Any additional comments, thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks.
the one and two flag columns are in the Library already at the bottom of the list
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Post by suntzu on Nov 11, 2019 20:53:25 GMT
if it helps i print in brown and then ink in a darker brown and then drybrush the main uniform and trousers , the ink seals the plastic as well
Rob
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Post by zeitsev on Nov 12, 2019 4:09:55 GMT
Thanks for the pointers to the road column and on using brown plastic.
I should have clarified that the request for columns was for battle columns, which were far wider than road columns.
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Post by Zach on Nov 12, 2019 17:51:53 GMT
My reply got eaten. I was wondering if you could clarify battle columns a bit. What is the size of a battalion in line for what you are doing? Once I know that I can figure out how big the column would be.
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Post by zeitsev on Nov 12, 2019 19:02:47 GMT
We are planning to use Mega Cat 20mm 3 ranks as individual battalions and mount several on a base to represent a brigade. I'd envision a battle column to be circa 8 to 10 mm wide and maybe 20mm long. The battalion size would represent roughly 500 men.
To help visualize this, imagine taking 3 to 4 of the above Mega cats; push them together one behind the other; cut off to where the flags are; and print what remains on one base, with 0, 1 or 2 flags re-oriented to face forward. Chandler's Campaigns of Napoleon (p.348)has one possible representation. But the main idea would be to re-utilize the existing sculpts as much as possible so as to minimize work.
BTW, the new Epics look really good. Once I get them printed and try my hand at painting them, we may switch over.
FYSA, I gave you and FMS a shout out over at BoardGameGeek.
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/33327053#33327053 With any luck, perhaps some new recruits will come by.
To get FMS some additional exposure, it'd be nice to take an existing boardgame and work up some way of translating the cardboard counters over to 2mm pieces.
Perhaps if I get some time, I'll do that for Worthington's "Hold The Line" AmRev game.
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Post by Zach on Nov 12, 2019 23:44:24 GMT
I see what you mean now. Let me take a look into doing this...
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Post by zeitsev on Nov 18, 2019 16:49:18 GMT
Thanks. Went up to Fall-In miniatures convention this past weekend.
My friend and I are now considering either putting on or demo-ing a 2mm Napoleonics game at Cold Wars and the battle columns would be very useful.
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Post by Zach on Nov 18, 2019 18:13:30 GMT
Hi! Ok, that gets my attention! I was actually thinking about these models this morning, so they are not forgotten. I had sort of a busy week last week, and then I found out that I passed the Bar Exam this weekend, so... I was celebrating, basically. But now I'm back to a more normal flow of things.
If you are willing to put on a demo game at Cold Wars I will give you all the support you want, and then some. I'll even mail you my own stuff if you want. And I'll pay S&H for you to send it back. I'll even help you buy terrain materials. We can discuss that, though.
I've been wanting to get FMS represented at an East Coast con for the last two years, but I've been busy every time. I was supposed to have a table at the Dealers' Hall last year but the plan fell through. I am making time for HCon this year, and some presence at Cold War to prep the ground would be great.
Maybe we can develop some ideas together. What do you have in mind so far? How many people are involved?
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Post by colinf on Nov 19, 2019 12:52:37 GMT
Congratulations on passing the Bar!
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Post by Zach on Nov 19, 2019 17:07:44 GMT
colinf - Thanks! Studying for it was one of the worst experiences of my life. I'm so glad it's over. I created FMS while procrastinating on studying for my 1L classes. Tinkering with them was relaxing. The sheer number of models in the Library has a direct relationship to how stressful law school is.
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Post by zeitsev on Nov 19, 2019 21:27:32 GMT
Congratulations, Barrister. That's a big accomplishment. Here's a virtual pat on the back and a BZ! So what are your current plans? Will you practice, or clerk or become a Hill staffer or a lobbyist? In any event, if you are considering relocating, the Washington DC 'swamp' where I live has a lot of opportunities.
On to business. I've put in an order at the local library to print up some 20mm 2 and 3 rank Mega-cats and am awaiting a note telling me they are printed.
Patrons need only pay for the cost of materials, so that's a strong reason for using their services.
As previously mentioned, my friend and I are thinking about doing a game demo. Our initial thoughts are to do 1809 Aspern-Essling/Wagram battle. We've discussed using 'Blucher' rules, but will also investigate using other rules sets such as 'Black Powder' or those from the 'Hold The Line' boardgame. Another thought was to do Borodino at the brigade level, perhaps simply using an existing boardgame as the foundation but playing with 2mm pieces. And I like the American Revolution as a topic, so we might also consider doing Brandywine or Monmouth. Nothing has been decided yet.
My friend is the experienced miniatures hand, whereas I'm the boardgame guy. We met about a half a year ago through a 6mm forum and live only about a mile apart in the DC/Northern Virginia area. Alas, he still has to work, whereas I'm now retired and have more time to devote to hobbies. Given his recent optempo at work, we haven't had as much time to do gaming as we'd like. That's our entire "team". There's a local boardgames club here in NoVA, and once we get a prototype built and a set of rules we like, we'd probably do a dry-run there. Our preliminary idea was to aim for doing a demo for Cold Wars, but since he has been very busy at work lately, Historicon may be a more realistic target.
So that's a brief overview of where we are in terms of planning. If you have questions, fire away and I'll do my best to answer them. - Doug
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Post by Zach on Nov 21, 2019 17:20:32 GMT
Ok, gotcha. Sounds like a solid plan. Finding rules for 2mm is always tricky, I agree. I've used BP, Blucher, and I've tried replacing markers with units on hex-based games. All of those techniques work in their own ways.
If you're going to base the battalions on larger bases, I would suggest using smaller troop blocks to create columns, instead of having the columns printed up on a single base. That gives you more freedom to model them wheeling through turns, or in sub-formations (like the Austrian division mass, for example). To model these, I would take the basic 20mm model and cut it down to 7mm. Then you could place those pieces onto the brigade base as you see fit. If I create a row of three columns, it might look a bit rigid. Although I could do both, frankly. This isn't a big job, I've just been busy at work.
There is also a road column model now. And, I'm hoping to finally get around to doing some squares for different sized units. I can do a square for the 20mm pieces (might be a bit tight...).
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Post by colinf on Nov 22, 2019 21:09:51 GMT
Thinking about rules, I'm currently using Volley and Bayonet: Road to Glory as it is brigade based, but I'm not quite happy with the rules as they are. They're not far off being really good, but there's a few things about playing it at 2mm that don't work so well.
One example is having commanders for each of the divisions. At 2mm, that's a bit of a faff and the commanders are tiny. Instead I've just got some 'divisional cohesion' rules in progress that use distance to dictate whether a unit can act with orders or is out of command distance.
That said, rules are easy to learn, simple to play with and you're not spending ages looking stuff up.
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Post by Zach on Nov 26, 2019 19:20:31 GMT
Zeitsev-
As regards passing the Bar Exam, thanks! I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I am sort of thinking about taking the New York Bar Exam this February, since I'm fresh off of the (much harder) California one. All of my family live in Pennsylvania still, so it could be nice to be back there. And having the option of practicing in both states is seriously useful for certain kinds of law. I'm interested in corporate bankruptcy law, for instance, and being able to practice in a New York and California state court is very useful in bankruptcy law. Bankruptcy courts are federal, so you can make an appearance there regardless of where you're licensed, but those cases have a tendency to bounce from the state courts to bankruptcy court, so being able to follow the money between CA, NY, and federal bankruptcy courts is handy. I've also noticed that when big money is at stake in CA a bunch of lawyers from NY start showing up. So, we'll see what I end up doing. Also, the wargaming scene is bigger on the East Coast. There are some good guys doing it out here, but not enough to get the critical mass needed. Plus, I have this feeling that I could make some serious money on the Library if I could just get back to the East Coast convention scene. It's tricky to do from here though.
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